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Themaster20000



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 12:11 pm Reply with quote
The dub to Ninja Slayer so far is shaping up to be the definite way to watch it. The script and delivery sounds like a Cannon Group film and a Godfrey Ho film combined,which is perfect for this.
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:33 pm Reply with quote
Thanks Zac for answering my twitter question on Aquarion EVOL. No, I didn't buy it since I haven't seen the original and I'm OCD like that.

I was asking since I have been told that Funimation used to do re-releases every single year it seemed, and that this is fostering an expectation of "oh, I'll just wait for the Complete Collection" or "oh, I'll wait for it to go to Anime Classics or SAVE". The LEs for the series are still widely available so they are overprinting product once again and cannibalizing their own sales it would seem. But yes, I could also understand the logic of they wanting to make back more money on the show.
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:34 pm Reply with quote
I don't agree with Hope about that one scene in the latest episode of Hibike! Euphonium. Many people seem to consider this as a sort of "(yuri) bait", like Hope described it. Sure, it is a very sensual moment, but I see it simply as a scene where one exentric girl is approaching the socially akward main heroine in an unusual kind of way and making her once more aware of her, to build a strong friendship bond with her. Basically, I see this as two girls on the way of making a very close friendship and not in a sexual way at all.

And the term "nostalgia wallow" isn't really helpful to describe an anime at all, because if you start to explain it from the angle of nostalgia, you'd never finish counting all the anime, life-action movies, novels ect. of japanese pop-culture and high-art which use nostalgia and elegiac as a backdrop of the plot. It is basically ingrained in japanese art and entertainment. See Ozus Tokyo Story as a prime example, or Takahata's Only Yesterday.
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:49 pm Reply with quote
If I were to banish something from conventions, it would be those "in character" panels. Are these ever funny or insightful or anything? Please someone prove me wrong.
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AbZeroNow



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:55 pm Reply with quote
invalidname wrote:
If I were to banish something from conventions, it would be those "in character" panels. Are these ever funny or insightful or anything? Please someone prove me wrong.


It seems like some conventions are already banning those, or rejecting those panels from what they select. I can see why some want to get rid of those, and I can see why they seem to be popular.
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:55 pm Reply with quote
Euphonium's author is a woman and the series director and quite a few of the episode directors are women (I think), so that's probably got something to do with why the girls in it feel more real than say, K-On!.
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 2:10 pm Reply with quote
This season has not been very good of the series I started watching I droped all (of the orginal three) to two becuese I just couldnt make myself watch a bunch of stuff I was only "meh" about. I still like Unlimited Blade Works but I'm kind of unconditonaly in love with that series.

The Trigun review episdoe should be good although that's a series I only watched six episdoes of becuese it reminded me too much of Kenshin.

Also I have never been a JoJos fan and people talking about how much they like it only makes me want to not continue watching it. As far as Sound! Euphonium knowing that does'nt really make me want to watch it as it simply feels arbitrary to have some sort of quasi romantic Shojo-Ai subplot.


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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 2:13 pm Reply with quote
"Nostalgic" has always been a strange term to describe KyoAni shows for me. I mean, I could understand if a japanese person was saying that the show evokes a nostalgic vibe, as they probably went to a similar high school or had similar experiences... but I never had a similar experience to what's being show in Sound! Euphonium, and I still enjoy it a lot (even though I was in band for a few years, as our system was pretty different). Same thing I can say about Hyouka, which is one of my favorite shows (despite of how slow it can be).

It's kinda like when I once told a friend I really liked Shovel Knight, and he answered that it was just because of the nostalgia value, when I had never, EVER, played a NES or SNES game until a few years ago.

But yeah, I like Euphonium for the characters, the subtle relationships they form, the message of music being all about practice, and all that stuff... maybe I'm just better at tolerating slower shows.
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 2:37 pm Reply with quote
raich8 wrote:
Euphonium's author is a woman and the series director and quite a few of the episode directors are women (I think), so that's probably got something to do with why the girls in it feel more real than say, K-On!.
You're right about the original authors of Euphonium and K-On and some of the former's episode directors, but with series directors (and head writers) it's the opposite: both the director and the writer of Euphonium are guys, while the director and the head writer of K-On are ladies.

As for the "yuri bait", at first I was excited about it actually being the real deal, having read that the original novel had been published as part of Takarajima Bunko's "Japan Love Story Grand Prize" series. Now that I checked closer it appears that it may have been published in that series only because the author had won the prize with her previous work. The Grand Prize's site does list Sound! Euphonium among "romance novels born from the Japan Love Story Grand Prize", but that might be simply because they lumped it together with all the actual romance novels.

Either way, I thought episode 8 was pretty blatant by KyoAni standards, but still leaving enough room for plausible deniability. I like KyoAni's works, but past experience suggests that they'll probably opt for having their cake and eating it rather than go full yuri.


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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 2:51 pm Reply with quote
Swissman wrote:
I don't agree with Hope about that one scene in the latest episode of Hibike! Euphonium. Many people seem to consider this as a sort of "(yuri) bait", like Hope described it. Sure, it is a very sensual moment, but I see it simply as a scene where one exentric girl is approaching the socially akward main heroine in an unusual kind of way and making her once more aware of her, to build a strong friendship bond with her. Basically, I see this as two girls on the way of making a very close friendship and not in a sexual way at all.

This pretty much describes my reaction when I heard Hope talk. I have watched enough anime to recognize when something is done strictly for otaku bating. That climatic scene in Sound! Euphonium was done with elegance and grace.

And what I got from it was a feeling of sincerity and well intended bonding. I can be a very cynic person, but this scene did not feel foul and manipulative to me.
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 3:12 pm Reply with quote
vonPeterhof wrote:
Either way, I thought episode 8 was pretty blatant by KyoAni standards, but still leaving enough room for plausible deniability. I like KyoAni's works, but past experience suggests that they'll probably opt for having their cake and eating it rather than go full yuri.


The two seasons of Love, Chunibyo & Other Delusions, which were also directed by Tatsuya Ishihara and written by Jukki Hanada, had some blatant yuri-baiting with Nibutani and Dekomori that never really went anywhere (and wasn't present in the novels, as far as I know). That's why I don't expect Euphonium to be any different in that regard.
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 3:29 pm Reply with quote
Dude! I loved Fate/tiger Colosseum! So much fun! Lots of costumes and characters from the franchise, various modes of play, cool environments, just a blast!

The worst anime tie-in game I've played is probably Zatch Bell: Mamodo Fury (2nd PS2 game) or Gundam Crossfire or w/e. I haven't played the REALLY low depths of anime games despite playing a bunch; those FotNS and Jojo games for the NES are probably quite awful from what I've heard.
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 3:43 pm Reply with quote
I gotta say to be honest aside from death parade I don't remember much from last season and the summer season doesn't look like it has a whole lot of stuff coming up from an outsider perspective so I guess this just makes it the year to go back into my backlog. (which is great because that means I can put time aside to finally finish moribito, stiens;gate, etc.)

As far as endings go I've always considered those to be context sensitive regarding what a show tries to do. For instance I personally didn't have an issue with the way FMA brotherhood wrapped itself up because I didn't have a problem with what happened before hand but I also had no issue with death parade in spite of it answering none of the questions it raised about it's universe because the story was about the two main characters.

otherwise great show it's been a fun listening.

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The worst anime tie-in game I've played is probably Zatch Bell: Mamodo Fury (2nd PS2 game)


Ah man I remember waking up in the dead of night having nothing to do and wound up playing that til sunrise cause I hated myself or something Laughing It's sadly the only material for that series I have aside from one random manga volume and I have no real intrest in the dub for that show to get the set... That's all stuff I'll have to import when I have the money and lack of sanity. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 3:55 pm Reply with quote
Anyone who is not watching BBB should go watch it now. Sub, dub, I don't care, just go watch it. Drop whatever you are doing and go watch BBB.
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Angel'sArcanum



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 4:43 pm Reply with quote
Thatguy3331 wrote:
For instance I personally didn't have an issue with the way FMA brotherhood wrapped itself up because I didn't have a problem with what happened before hand but I also had no issue with death parade in spite of it answering none of the questions it raised about it's universe because the story was about the two main characters.



Now that you mention it, what Hope was saying about neat endings, and thinking about FMAB's ending, that's one I'm rather vocal about not liking. What I like in endings is similar to Hope's with neat but more implied closure, and I also like stuff with a little compromise. Brotherhood had a sugary sweet ending and nearly everyone got exactly what they wanted which I found kind of tedious and lame, whereas something like Kure-nai levels the playing field everyone has kind of give or take, ultimately for the better, but it doesn't tread on it heavily like some saccharine fest. Heck, it's even a bit melancholic.

As for Death Parade, yeah I wasn't entirely satisfied there with the focus predominantly on the one-off characters while the few recurring ones got very small and insignificant bits added to them for the most part, it was kind of strange. The ending seemed to play on a bit of a tightrope that softened some of the dramatic heft, I couldn't fully appreciate it really.
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