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NEWS: Ten Count BL Anime Gets Theatrical Release in 2023




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MagicPolly



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:43 am Reply with quote
Amazing news to wake up to, I genuinely thought it was cancelled at this point! I wish it was a tv series but a movie allows for more sexual content and I feel like if they didn't make a movie there wouldn't be an anime at all at this point
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musouka



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 12:35 pm Reply with quote
Yikes! That staff and the studios...

You can tell by the key art alone that this will be "anime released in a theater" as opposed to a theatrical quality movie. I feel bad for Ten Count fans.
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SHD



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:16 pm Reply with quote
musouka wrote:
Yikes! That staff and the studios...

You can tell by the key art alone that this will be "anime released in a theater" as opposed to a theatrical quality movie. I feel bad for Ten Count fans.

Just came to say this, something tells me this anime is not going to be one that fans of the manga will be happy about. I really wonder why well-regarded BL manga like this or Sankaku mado get such adaptations... I guess producers still see these titles as much more of a risk = less return, as opposed to more safe/mainstream stuff like Given, but giving them this treatment is just going to make them even less profitable.
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musouka



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:17 pm Reply with quote
What I'd like to know is what happened to GRIZZLY and Blue Lynx--the overall wave of producers and studios excited about creating high-quality BL works that we seemed to hear about regularly a few years back. (Did Umibe no Étranger do that badly?)

Because stuff like "Yes, No, or Maybe" and this just scream that BL is getting shunted down to the only studios with production gaps and can only get directors that would otherwise just be animators on other projects.
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myochan



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 3:39 pm Reply with quote
I'm so glad this is finally happening! Although I wish it could be a tv series, I'm glad it wasn't canceled, and looking forward to seeing Riku and Tadaomi in their animated glory, with the same voice actors as in the drama CDs, no less! Yay!
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SHD



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 3:42 pm Reply with quote
musouka wrote:
What I'd like to know is what happened to GRIZZLY and Blue Lynx--the overall wave of producers and studios excited about creating high-quality BL works that we seemed to hear about regularly a few years back. (Did Umibe no Étranger do that badly?)


The optimist in me says "Hey, developing anime takes time, maybe there's a whole lot of projects at various stages at development and we just don't know about them yet!"

But to be realistic/pessimistic, I think they might have overestimated both the willingness/preparedness of the industry to work with BL (hello, general homophobia) and BL's potential as a steady source of mainstream (= profitable) productions - and now they're kind of scratching their heads about how to proceed, what kind of shows to develop, or just kind of putting it all on the backburner until they see how the market develops with individual projects. Because look at the BL/BL-adjacent shows that did decent business/popularity lately: they are either the type that have the same stories and relationship types you see in stories with m/f couples as well, or those that are technically not BL but they're so obviously targeting the m/m shipping crowd, like SK8 and whatnot. (Disclaimer: these are not my cup of tea, but no judgement on my end, people like what they like.) And beyond that it's basically a great unknown: lots of niches (ero BL is never going to be mainstream as anime Very Happy), lots of genres (from modern stuff to Japanese historical like Momo to Manji or western historical/pseudo-historical like Barbarities, never mind full-blown fantasy or sci-fi), and likely they have no idea where to start, what would make a decent business... especially as lots of BL readers are not the type to watch anime anyway.

So now when we do get something it's 1. an adaptation, and 2. either a prestige project with lots of weight behind it, usually adapting something softer with a mainstream appeal (like Given); or 3. it's something edgier and less mainstream, but made on a shoestring budget by people who either don't know what they're doing or just don't care (oh god, Sankaku mado).

(Actually, now that I think about it, I wouldn't be surprised if the next "prestige" type BL anime was a novel adaptation...)
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Fenrin



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:33 pm Reply with quote
Damn. I saw "Ten" and "BL" and thought it said Ten Dance and got really excited for a second Anime cry
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CrowLia



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:10 am Reply with quote
Even as someone who doesn't like Ten Count, I can't fathom how they flubbed this so badly. Back in the day the manga was selling like hot cakes, it was one of, if not the most popular BL of the mid 2010s, and they just slept on it for four years and after that they release a key visual that looks like absolutely no one involved in the production gives a single crap.
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Kenfra



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:16 am Reply with quote
SHD wrote:
musouka wrote:
What I'd like to know is what happened to GRIZZLY and Blue Lynx--the overall wave of producers and studios excited about creating high-quality BL works that we seemed to hear about regularly a few years back. (Did Umibe no Étranger do that badly?)


The optimist in me says "Hey, developing anime takes time, maybe there's a whole lot of projects at various stages at development and we just don't know about them yet!"

But to be realistic/pessimistic, I think they might have overestimated both the willingness/preparedness of the industry to work with BL (hello, general homophobia) and BL's potential as a steady source of mainstream (= profitable) productions - and now they're kind of scratching their heads about how to proceed, what kind of shows to develop, or just kind of putting it all on the backburner until they see how the market develops with individual projects. Because look at the BL/BL-adjacent shows that did decent business/popularity lately: they are either the type that have the same stories and relationship types you see in stories with m/f couples as well, or those that are technically not BL but they're so obviously targeting the m/m shipping crowd, like SK8 and whatnot. (Disclaimer: these are not my cup of tea, but no judgement on my end, people like what they like.) And beyond that it's basically a great unknown: lots of niches (ero BL is never going to be mainstream as anime Very Happy), lots of genres (from modern stuff to Japanese historical like Momo to Manji or western historical/pseudo-historical like Barbarities, never mind full-blown fantasy or sci-fi), and likely they have no idea where to start, what would make a decent business... especially as lots of BL readers are not the type to watch anime anyway.

So now when we do get something it's 1. an adaptation, and 2. either a prestige project with lots of weight behind it, usually adapting something softer with a mainstream appeal (like Given); or 3. it's something edgier and less mainstream, but made on a shoestring budget by people who either don't know what they're doing or just don't care (oh god, Sankaku mado).

(Actually, now that I think about it, I wouldn't be surprised if the next "prestige" type BL anime was a novel adaptation...)

It's nothing so deep. BL has lost mainstream relevance. Though it's far from being gone. And I hope we see BLs the same way we did in the 2000s and early 10s
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:33 am Reply with quote
I've only ever paged through a bit of Ten Count, so this adaptation is probably targeting losers like me who won't notice the difference in quality (much like with Tricornered Window).

SHD wrote:
And beyond that it's basically a great unknown: lots of niches (ero BL is never going to be mainstream as anime Very Happy), lots of genres (from modern stuff to Japanese historical like Momo to Manji or western historical/pseudo-historical like Barbarities, never mind full-blown fantasy or sci-fi), and likely they have no idea where to start, what would make a decent business... especially as lots of BL readers are not the type to watch anime anyway.
I came in here to read the usual doomposting about BL anime, and can now walk away extra sad that we will also probably never see a Barbarities adaptation without wishing on the monkey's paw. Thanks. Laughing

On the subject of movies and other adaptations, Kadokawa is probably waiting to see the box office turnout for the SasaMyaa movie before making another move in that direction. There's still the live-action Coin Laundry, and the vomic for SahaToki, so they're not exactly sitting around, either, just producing stuff that isn't really accessible to a western audience.

Not sure what happened to Blue Lynx, but the Etranger movie was basically sent out to die in the height of pandemic restrictions on movie theaters, so I wonder if some higher-ups used that as a pretense to stick a fork in it.
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xxmsxx



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:34 pm Reply with quote
While not optimistic for the eventual outcome, at least it is going ahead....I thought it was very dead due to the long radio silence.

BL is a complex genre and this series was very successful financially at one point, but I am not so sure about this adaptation.
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Kakegurui



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:00 pm Reply with quote
So strange seeing so many doom and gloom here. BL anime seems to be on a downtrend BUT BL drama is becoming mainstream in Japan, Korea, Thailand etc so BL is still not close to dying. Overall BL is at its peak.
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SHD



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:04 am Reply with quote
wolf10 wrote:
I came in here to read the usual doomposting about BL anime, and can now walk away extra sad that we will also probably never see a Barbarities adaptation without wishing on the monkey's paw. Thanks. Laughing

Sorry about that. Very Happy The funny thing is that Barbarities lends itself so well to anime (so does Momo to Manji, btw, now that I think about it), it's basically a fun story, pretty but not very challenging visuals (unlike say, Baraou), not a whole lot of action, basically it could be done on a mediocre budget with some decent creative vision. Alas. Sad

Kakegurui wrote:
So strange seeing so many doom and gloom here. BL anime seems to be on a downtrend BUT BL drama is becoming mainstream in Japan, Korea, Thailand etc so BL is still not close to dying. Overall BL is at its peak.

But we were talking about BL anime specifically, not BL in general. Yes, BL in general is doing just fine, BL novels are florishing, BL manga are getting wider and wider reach with BL/BL-esque m/m content (not sure how to define this, but basically not "real gay stuff for real gay men") is spreading into mainstream manga magazines, and as far as live action TV goes it's been mainstream in Thailand and Korea for a while. I wouldn't even say BL in general is at its peak, it's still growing and there's still places for it to go.

BL anime, specifically, though, is in a weird situation where "softer", more mainstream type romcoms and dramas seem to be getting money, but for anything edgier or more explicit it's back to the '00s and early '10s with shoestring budget adaptations of works that may not be a good idea to adapt right here and now, done by people who either don't know what they're doing or don't care. Really, I keep flashing back to Mirage of Blaze - such an ambitious novel series, getting.... uh, that anime adaptation way back in 2002, and here we are, 20 years later, and similar works still get the same type of adaptations. (Also, I should remember to bring up Mirage more often when Yuuri on Ice fans claim the show is revolutionary or something... Anime smile + sweatdrop )
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KENZICHI



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 8:02 am Reply with quote
Finally some NEWS on this! Genuinely thought it was cancelled after so long. Sad it’s not an anime tv show but at least it’s something. Hope they add most of my favorite parts.
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